I am looking to buy a new rifle and Im between the Franchi Momentum Elite and the Weatherby Vanguard MeatEater edition mainly because of availability. i will say that if someone ever makes an after market "classic" stock for it, i'll dump the plastic factory one. It was raffled, gave winner 450 hoping to thrd and add brake but barrel too thin. keep on the good work and excuse my poor englis. I know I have expediencies it. Full Details. If you want a wood stock, metal parts, and nice bluing, feel free to spend an extra $300 or more on a Ruger Hawkeye or similar. Im a big fan of Sig pistols and never had an issue with QC. Theres something cool coming. and With the Sako 85 you get better wood and more metal, but I would rather buy a Tikka T3. I have been looking at the savage 110 ultralite 6.5 creedmoor. The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. You mentioned the seekins havoc, but not in detail. So how do you choose between them? Plus, it uses an old-school sporter stock that just isnt what todays long-range shooter is looking for. After reading you, I am going to use them now for hunting. (Live in northern Alberta.) I would love those see a review of the Benelli Lupo.Ive been shooting mine for little while now and I have to say it is a very accurate hunting rifle with a great ability to conform to just about anybody.Hope to see a review in the near future.Da Butcher. Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion. My initial impression is that it is a pretty standard budget bolt gun. I reload, so Ive been able to work on the load. $799.00 Add To Cart For Price. I love that Fierce Reaper but would probably have to sell another nice gun to get it and not sure I quite want to do that. Its a push feed which means if you short stroke the bolt you can get a jam that I guarantee will take you half an hour to un-jam. XPR has a great barrel (mine was very accurate), free floated; pretty smooth bolt/action for price; same trigger as M70; permacote is durable; stock is better than most in price range. Obscenely lightweight. They have shot the ruger and no problem but alittle heavy to be packing around the mountain. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. My builder said (because of the bad Winchester brass) he would not recommend the 68 Western. Its short, compact, lightweight, sinfully accurate with my handloads, feeds 100%, and adjustable so it fits me perfectly. Just remember one thing the price of the good older stuff keeps going up and up so when you waste your money on junk it never goes up in value as fast as the good stuff so when you do get around to buying something of quality you lost twice not once. So far really like it FYI. I\m a big fan of your videos and expertise. Any opinions/guidance would be much appreciated! TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. You should always spend your hard earned money on what *you* like, but the Franchi stock strikes me as an example of what the late Chuck Hawks called "Euro trash.". Honestly, you need to review one. bolt turn was a bit rough out of the box. I have fond memories of my Weatherby, but the last few years its spent more time in my gun safe while I pack smaller calibers. Hey Jim, But 300 WinMag doesnt fit in an AR15 and 6.5 Swede doesnt fit in a short action. As i get older i am now back to 6,555 and 8x57IS and 308win when it come to calibers but that is more related to the hunting i do than the rifles .Love your tube videos and the fact that you have your own opinions an are not afraid to tell everyone about them. Its a Howa 1500 action in their own pretty cool stock. I am looking for a 6.5 creedmoor bolt action hunting rifle for our place in north central west Texas. Its very heavy, the straight pull was difficult to work with and made a few of my shots not go off because I didnt quite push it ALL the way forward. I actually ordered a CVA cascade first, in .308, but changed my mind and returned it and bought the Franchi. I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. I will be hunting suppressed from now on and want to keep my rifle as short as possible. Thanks for all of your vids and you helped me get my last two rifles with all the choices. You know Beretta will not support either rifle. I thought of the Waypoint myself but I also like the Sako Finnlight II. Its like saying 300 Blackout isnt as effective as 300 WinMag. Whats your opinion one the tikka t3x upr vs the waypoint 2020? Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. No doubt, it has s lot to offer. Threaded barrel, cerakote barrel, hand painted stock. 12 Best .308 Rifles Reviewed In 2023 - Survival Gear Shack Though the tightest of those were from outlets that shoot 3-round groups, for what thats worth (well, its worth a tighter average group size). My two next rifles will be a Weatherby Mark V and a Sako 85. Releasing the floor plate of the 4-round, internal magazine is accomplished via a lever inside the front of the trigger guard. Fnanchi is most likely the same design since they share ownership. Also would be cool to see you do a semi-custom rifle (Bighorn action, prefit barrel, Ag composites stock, trigger tech, etc.) Its a good quality scope for shooting out to 300 yards but doesnt have adjustable turrets so if youll want to do some long-distance shooting, order it without a scope. Vlad is an asshole in general who needs to go away. So happy you out this together as it brings all of your work together and I hope you link to it. (The extra mags are also only like $20 which is nice, too.) Thanks for your time Jim, love the channel! Its like the girl you almost dated because you were such good friends and got along with great, but just never could fall in love with. It is very expensive. The trouble Im having wracking my brain over is caliber. Adjustable from 2 pounds to 4 pounds, my sample fell right in the middle of that range. Im looking for another LR hunting rifle and was seriously looking at Christianson arms but not so much now. Not impressed with the plastic trigger guard also because I have broken one on a different rifle and it was a pain in the rear to source. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Hornady Precision hunter was working well in mine. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE 6.5 CREEDMOOR 24" 3RD BOLT RIFLE - REALTREE EXCAPE / BURNT BRONZE True Price: $ 813.69. The scope hasnt moved for years now and I have shot it quite a bit. The new Franchi Momentum is darn near an exact copy to the Ruger American. You must log in or register to reply here. Yes your quite right on that and its sad that the majority of hunters never bother to educate themselves in regards to the plethora of 6.5 mm cartridges invented over the years. I am going to buy one last hunting rifle eventually in 7mm or 7 PRC so I am watching CVA XT and Weatherby. To wit: 1. I just dont shoot the Weatherby as well as I used to, and even reloading is expensive enough I dont do much plinking with it. How Franchi Redesigned the Momentum Elite - The National Interest I even bought one Mauser with a shot out barrel knowing it was shot out for $240 dollars complete with scope and had a local gunsmith rebarrel it for me and reblue the whole gun and I had only $600 in it. Its a 3-lug design with a decently large extractor and ejector and large locking lugs. Length of Pull: 14 inches (adjustable with spacers) 1 is the Footprint for the Action is proprietary, It is NOT made by Bergara. I own one in a 30-06, with 3 safes full of guns, it is my favourite. Some people get a good one, others get a lemon. Hunting rifles per say but not many of the new techno rifles. Id probably go with the Bergara Wilderness Ridge. I am looking into ordering a 20 Super Sniper chambered in .308 and was curious to know if you have had any experience with it? Its not for me. Affordable? Im giving the Momentum an extra star above average for the polished, fluted bolt and all the checkered ergonomic areas on the stock that fancy it up a bit. The stock feels really cheesy. . However, Ill simply leave this anecdote. A junk plasticky trigger guard, its enough to make you barf just looking at it. I would really like one in one of the 7mm flavors. Sure, its the same action and barrel, but its dressed up completely differently, and I think it changes the gun significantly. I want a lightweight rifle that has mild Recoil with ballistics similar to 270 Winchester but in a short action. Im not sure why Bergarra and other premium manufacturers dont do this but Im sure theres a reason. Yes please, there is a major lack of opinions out there on the LUPO. If a close friend asked me what hunting rifle to buy at each price point, these would be my recommendations: If you dont want to read this entire post, jump to the section for rifles in your budget. Its a great suppressor. If so, what are you impressions of it. Took my buck at 325 shooting Federal Premium 110gr bullets. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Im really interested in the Benelli Lupo, any chance your going to get your hands on one of those? The molded-in checkering is clean and sharp but in no way uncomfortable. Ive been eyeing them for a while, but the MPR turned me off from the chassis rifles. I am looking for a semi-auto gun for hunting, been looking at the Savage MSR 10 in 6.5 CM and the Smith and Wesson M&P 10 in 6.5 CM (I would really love to see an AR10 in 6.5 PRC). You have my general answer, but below Ill provide more detail and reasoning for those selections, as well as some rifles not to pick. But honestly these are not deal-breakers (or at least I think so). I just took the first shots with the Winchester XPR in 6.8 Western today. First let me say your videos are absolutely fantastic. Server Time: 2023-01-16 08:20:56 UTC I was really looking at the Waypoint before so would you recommend that now or another? Do you think this is normal business practice ? He lives outside of Austin, TX. Interested in loading this cartridge. It can be tough to watch all the individual reviews of rifles that I do on Youtube and get a sense for where each rifle stacks up on the Jim Scale, so in this post, Ill give it to you straight. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. And all the great work you do! I purchased a 280 AI in a Mark V Weatherby instead. Id love to hear your thoughts on a modern option like the Extreme Weather SS MB. I went with the CVA simply for that reason. . this are what i like long range in a good rifle, with hornady ammo. The only competitor would be a full custom on the amazing MDT HNT 26 chassis. Its incredibly well built. Itd make a Backstreet Boy jealous. In my mind, there are only two good options in the sub-$500 price point: (1) The CVA Cascade, and (2) The Ruger American and preferably the Predator version. JavaScript is disabled. You have entered an incorrect email address! And although most of my center fires are Deluxe grade, the aforementioned still holds true. Pretty typical for a synthetic-stocked, budget-oriented hunting rifle. Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. CVA all the way. and see how it stacks up next to the high end factory rifles. What would you like to know? i have a momentum in .308. stock looks a bit odd, but handles my frame very well. Next. One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. At the back of the bolt shroud, the firing pin protrudes to show cocked status (as seen above) and is flush with the rear of the bolt shroud when not cocked. My loads averaging 3050 fps with the 162gr eldx. What ammo are you shooting in your cross? Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1 (Release build 20180111) Page Time: 0.097s Queries: 14 (0.037s) Memory: 3.1032 MB (Peak: 3.2586 MB) Zlib disabled. They are reviewing new rifles not old ones. Everyone else says so but I figured Id ask. Fierce rifles are accurate, built well, look great, come with good triggers, and feed perfectly. My 2 favorite calibers are 270( I have 6 of them) and 300H&H ( one pre 64 Winchester Model 70 and one Cooper). hey jim i have a 2022 ridgeline in 308 it shoots 1/4 to 1/2 moa looked a long time and read many bad reviews butt talked to many people and am very happy with mine thanks. Hi Jim, Jim, Its an interesting concept but I prefer a traditional bolt. 1. can be top loaded, In our testing, the Weatherby Vanguard shot the most accurately, although the difference between it, the Bergara and the Tikka was so small that I doubt we could call it statistically significant. Ill update the post. The only downside I see is the weight at 7 plus pounds if your looking for a ultralight mountain rig. It appears that Fierce is stretching the truth a bit on weight because mine weighs 6 pounds, 4 1/8 oz and its a short action with 24 6.5mm barrel so it should be about the lightest one they have. Mostly hand carried, thick timber and hills in foul weather. Have you had a chance to look over or review the Savage Impulse? All in 7mm Rem Mag of course . I would definitely buy the Winchester XPR SR version, which means suppressor ready, so you get a threaded barrel. Wow, what a shooter! In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. The Howa is around $200-$300 cheaper than the Savage. Manse, he actually has a point this time. I am not sure, or saying one is better than the other, but that was something that bothered me. Would like to buy a Tikka Super Varmint barrel and action with MDT chassis but am also considering Bergara UpR. They are also slippery when wet and ice cold to touch in winter. I like the fact that you backed your reviews with a substantial reason for the review vs nothing to substantiate the review. Any information is greatly appreciated. Yes, even if my hunting situation means most shots will be shorter range, I want a rifle that will reach out and make a 250 or 350 yard shot accurately in case it needs to. Keep up the great work. It talks about every calibre Savage Arms is selling in Canada but dont talk about calibre I purchased. bolt throw. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. I want to buy a new rifle in 30-06. Love your videos and reviews thanks a ton. I love to hunt white tail deer in Arkansas. I do have a question that I hope you will address. 9 Best Hunting Rifles in 2023: I tested 40 rifles to find the best I agree with you. How about a Bergara Wilderness Ridge in 7 mag? Zero quality control issues. Thats unfortunate because theyre chamberimg it in 7PRC. Im considering a modern Win 70 as well. The trigger is adjustable like the Tikka. I dont want it to feel pain or the anxiety of dying slowly. I have been looking at the 6.8 western. Capacity: 4+1 The torque settings have to be exact and should use friction paper in the bottom rings. It is still a preferred caliber in Scandinavia for big game. I have Burris rings for a Tikka T3 base which are basically the same as the Zee rings. I wanted to get into deer/large game hunting while trying to stick with one gun for all animals (deer to elk) and I live in northeast South Dakota. But the chassis is the killer for me. . You have probably heard this before but I am not really a hunter, at least not yet. Just easier to carry in hand, never a sling. The other option is the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. I know they are two different price points, but Id love to see a side by side comparison between the 2020 Waypoint and the Savage 110 Ultra Lite. Thanks. I have not seen a semi-auto in 6.5 PRC, should I wait? Thanks. Is the quality that good? Thanks Jim. unloaded and 46.7 . Ruger Americans are fantastic. The best part of learning how much I love hunting was how little I first put in. Thats a nice collection. Hi Jim. In this price range, this rifle appears to be a very good value. Dont get me wrong. 3. and three-stage safety. They do have a more expensive option for a titanium action that is even lighter, but I feel the titanium actions just arent as smooth in the hand. If you want an accurate rifle with a threaded barrel and a decent trigger, it doesnt seem like you can go wrong with this one for under $500. Havent shot it yet, but well see how it performs. Some day Ill give one a more fair look. Awesome at this price range. Hi Jim Im trying to click your links to the guns but its not working. I\ve been perusing the site trying to find it as my rifle should be here today or tomorrow. I used to not care about if the bolt locked on safe but after a walk in the woods of ND with a Ruger American and the bolt falling out, to not be recovered on the opener, I now only have guns that lock the bolt on safe. Im really down to the Fierce Carbon Rival vs the Weatherby MarkV Backcountry. Have you ever made a review of the Schultz & Larsen rifle? Take your pick but you get a super reliable gun and if you ever broke an extractor or firing pin you can change them out right in the field within minutes. Its way more fun to shoot than the other guns. I dont think any mauser action rifles allow you to drop around in because of the claw extractor. The controlled-round feed action is great. Thank you. Winchester Xpr or Franchi Momentum ? In 270. | Rokslide Forum